[Coral-List] Footprint calculator and coral troubles (Steve Mussman)

Nohora Galvis icri.colombia at gmail.com
Fri Feb 9 15:41:38 EST 2018

Dear Milton and Judy,

Milton, interesting talk about the relevance of convincing people to
change behaviors.

We know that when the priorities in top decision-making are very clear
in favor of unsustainable development, science available to convince
politicians is ignored by them,
Let us overcome the difficulty to convince top decision makers by
addressing directly their scientific advisors. For instance, to avoid
unsustainable projects to be developed in coral reef areas when
science has proven the worldwide coral reef crisis.

We should try our best to be coherent. It is hard for scientists and
anybody else to try to convince people about for example demographic
controls when the convincing person has seven kids.

I agree with Judy about to support local projects to diminish carbon
footprints from international flights and when invited to communicate
findings then try to combined it with personal holidays or research
surveys afterwards in the same area. That way It is possible to
diminish number of flights per year. Nevertheless, It will be more
effective to advise organizers to plan future webinars allowing more

All the best,
Sustainable Development Goals/Ideas

2018-02-09 8:36 GMT-05:00, milton muldrow <milton.muldrow at gmail.com>:
> Steve,
> I agree with your statements regarding the need for scientists to count
> themselves as part of the problem in environmental degradation.  We all
> contribute to climate change, environmental degradation, etc.  As you note,
> many of us as middle-class employees have a carbon footprint that may
> vastly outpace the average, as we tend to travel more and use more
> resources in our work than the average person.  Admitting these things may
> induce trust and start to break down the "us versus them" narrative I have
> noticed.  In blog posts and op-eds, we as scientists are constantly
> pointing the finger, as I find this as not only disingenuous
> but divisive and not useful.  Of course, we are to sound the alarm on
> environmental harm, although perhaps we could do it in a way that more
> effectively recruits individuals to our cause. I address these issues in a
> recent TEDx Talk:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dgQwmvBM2w
> Sincerely,
> Milton Muldrow Jr., Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor and Chair
> Department of Science and Environmental Science & Policy
> College of Arts and Sciences
> New Castle Campus
> 320 North DuPont Highway | New Castle, DE 19720
> Phone: 302-356-6835
> *Milton.X.Muldrow at wilmu.edu <Milton.X.Muldrow at wilmu.edu>*
> https://www.linkedin.com/in/milton-muldrow-jr-phd/
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>>    1. New blog post- Canada proposed revisions to the Fisheries
>>       Act. Here?s how science and conservation experts reacted
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>>    2. Footprint calculator and coral troubles (Steve Mussman)
>>    3. Sponges on Caribbean reefs (Pawlik, Joseph)
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>> Date: Wed, 7 Feb 2018 14:19:23 -0500
>> From: Steve Mussman <sealab at earthlink.net>
>> Subject: [Coral-List] Footprint calculator and coral troubles
>> To: coral list <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
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>> My own carbon footprint calculations might best be described as
>> inconvenient truths.  For many years now I have been focused on
>> attempting
>> to raise awareness among scuba divers as to the myriad of stressors
>> affecting coral reefs and on working to move the diving industry to take
>> a
>> more responsible stance on the issues involved. Ironically, I do not need
>> to do a formal footprint calculation to recognize the internal
>> contradiction arising from the fact that my own carbon footprint is
>> continually and unequivocally contributing to the problem. Even more
>> awkward is the realization that if everyone on earth traveled and lived
>> like I do, the problem would likely be worse. This is not an exercise in
>> self-flagellation and I?m sure I?m not alone in conceding this point. My
>> reason for throwing this out there is based on the hope that perhaps the
>> candid acknowledgment of the fact that we, the anointed ones, are
>> admittedly part of the problem may lead us to re-evaluate our strategies
>> desi
>>  gned to implement change going forward. Maybe I?m wrong, but could it be
>> that our attempts to affect those not readily disposed to accepting the
>> science have been laced with some level of unintended self-righteousness
>> and that there might be a way to broaden our appeal by plainly
>> acknowledging our own complicity?
>> Regards,
>> Steve Mussman
>> Sent from my iPad
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>> Date: Thu, 8 Feb 2018 14:33:58 +0000
>> From: "Pawlik, Joseph" <pawlikj at uncw.edu>
>> Subject: [Coral-List] Sponges on Caribbean reefs
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>> Greetings, Colleagues,
>> We're pleased to direct your attention to some recent publications that
>> highlight the vibrant research that's going on in sponge ecology,
>> particularly related to coral reef ecosystems. The first of these is a
>> review that updates the lively back-and-forth regarding top-down and
>> bottom-up effects on sponge community structure on Caribbean reefs. The
>> review brings together citations old and new, including a discussion of
>> the
>> likely top-down effect of ~11 million hawksbill turtles on Caribbean
>> reefs
>> of a few centuries ago!
>> Pawlik, J.R., Loh, T.-L., McMurray S.E. 2018. A review of bottom-up vs.
>> top-down control of sponges on Caribbean fore-reefs: What's old, what's
>> new, and future directions. PeerJ  6:e4343
>> https://peerj.com/articles/434
>> 3/
>> Some of the concepts in the PeerJ paper were reported in a recent post on
>> the National Geographic website:
>> https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/sponges-choking-
>> caribbean-coral-reefs-bleaching-environment/
>> We have also tested the sponge-loop hypothesis for 9 species of emergent
>> Caribbean sponges, and have confirmed the importance of DOC in sponge
>> nutrition, but could find no evidence for detritus production in the loop
>> as it was originally proposed - instead we suggest that emergent sponges
>> "close the loop" with growth, rather than detritus production. This paper
>> was chosen as a MEPS Feature Article:
>> McMurray, S.E., Stubler, A.D., Erwin, P.M., Finelli, C.M., Pawlik, J.R.
>> 2018.  A test of the sponge-loop hypothesis for emergent Caribbean reef
>> sponges. Marine Ecology Progress Series, 588:1-14    doi:
>> 10.3354/meps12466
>> http://www.int-res.com/articles/feature/m588p001.pdf
>> Finally, here is a recently published chapter that reviews the ecological
>> function of sponges relative to nutrient cycling at a time of rapid
>> anthropogenic change:
>> de Goeij, J.M., Lesser, M.P., Pawlik, J.R. 2017. Nutrient fluxes and
>> ecological functions of coral reef sponges in a changing ocean. Chapter 8
>> in Climate Change, Ocean Acidification and Sponges, pp. 373-410,
>> Carballo,
>> J.L., Bell, J.J.(eds.) Springer. DOI 10.1007/978-3-319-59008-0_8
>> Regards,
>> Joe
>> **************************************************************
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>> Dept. of Biology and Marine Biology
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>> PDFs: http://people.uncw.edu/pawlikj/pubs2.html
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Cordial saludo,

Nohora Galvis

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Fundación ICRI Colombia
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