[Coral-List] drone used to photograph reefs

Phillip Dustan phil.dustan at gmail.com
Mon Jul 1 12:00:33 UTC 2019


I would echo Mike and suggest that the energy spent on all the coral-list
pontificating be better purposed to effect change, not rhetoric.
Phil

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 8:56 PM Risk, Michael via Coral-List <
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:

>    ...and 50 years ago Terry Scoffin was flying camera-carrying kites over
>    reefs, 40 years ago we had CASSI multispectral imagery...there are
>    loads of techniques out there. We need to give up our fascination with
>    endless ways to describe the vanishing (how many different "reef
>    survey" schemes are out there?) and concentrate on stopping the
>    vanishing. This might just mean less focus on individual careers and
>    more on solutions. (If I sound cynical-I earned it.)
>
>    On Jun 28, 2019, at 5:20 PM, Douglas Fenner via Coral-List
>    <[1]coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
>
>    So fantastic whiz-bang technology!  Great!!  We'd all like to be able
>    to
>    finally see what the reef looks like, each bump, hole, and coral
>    colony, on
>    our computer screens in the office or lab.  Never mind that it is only
>    a
>    tiny patch of the world's reefs.  Article didn't say how much 6 mo of
>    supercomputer time to crunch the data will cost.  Surely vastly more
>    than
>    the $90,000 for the camera and $15,000 for the drone.  How practical
>    will
>    that be for mapping the world's reefs?  What major coral reef problem
>    will
>    be solved by this?  Will it solve some major mystery about reefs?  Will
>    it
>    save any reefs or corals?  I didn't see an answer to that in the
>    article.
>    A person was quoted in this article as saying it is faster than having
>    someone go underwater and take a lot of pictures and stitch them
>    together.
>    But clearly not faster if you include computer time.  Instead of 6 mo
>    of
>    supercomputer, you can do the computer processing on your own computer
>    in a
>    few hours with software that is dirt cheap compared to a supercomputer
>    for
>    6 mo.  For the price of supercomputer for 6 mo, you could provide
>    funding
>    for reef management for a whole country for a year or more, I would
>    guess.
>    Or voluntary birth control for a whole small country for a year or so
>    (I'm
>    totally with you on that, Alina!).
>       I'm playing "devil's advocate" here.
>        Cheers,  Doug
>    On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 7:04 AM Nicole Crane <[2]nicrane at cabrillo.edu>
>    wrote:
>
>      Just saw a presentation on this while in Guam. Super!
>      Nicole
>      On Fri, Jun 28, 2019 at 10:25 AM Douglas Fenner via Coral-List <
>      [3]coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
>
>      Drone takes to the skies to image offshore reefs
>      [4]https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01988-9?WT.ec_id=NATUR
>      E-20190627&utm_source=nature_etoc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=2019
>      0627&sap-outbound-id=F6879643729B698E3E09146A03F27DA843F58E1B&mkt-ke
>      y=005056B0331B1ED782EEA4D8C7ECAFA3
>      open access
>      (Note the cost and that it may take 6 mo of supercomputer time to
>      analyze
>      the data from 5 sq m.  Also doesn't say how deep it can image or how
>      image
>      degrades with depth.)
>      Cheers,  Doug
>      --
>      Douglas Fenner
>      Ocean Associates, Inc. Contractor
>      NOAA Fisheries Service
>      Pacific Islands Regional Office
>      Honolulu
>      and:
>      Consultant
>      PO Box 7390
>      Pago Pago, American Samoa 96799  USA
>      A call to climate action  (Science editorial)
>      https://science.sciencemag.org/content/364/6443/807?utm_campaign=toc
>      _sci-mag_2019-05-30&et_rid=17045989&et_cid=2840296
>      New book "The Uninhabitable Earth"  First sentence: "It is much,
>      much
>      worse
>      than you think."
>      Read first (short) chapter open access:
>      https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/read-a-chapter-from-the-uninhabita
>      ble-earth-a-dire-warning-on-climate-change
>      Want a Green New Deal?  Here's a better one.
>      https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/want-a-green-new-deal-heres-
>      a-better-one/2019/02/24/2d7e491c-36d2-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.h
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>      One People One Reef
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>
>    --
>    Douglas Fenner
>    Ocean Associates, Inc. Contractor
>    NOAA Fisheries Service
>    Pacific Islands Regional Office
>    Honolulu
>    and:
>    Consultant
>    PO Box 7390
>    Pago Pago, American Samoa 96799  USA
>    A call to climate action  (Science editorial)
>    [6]https://science.sciencemag.org/content/364/6443/807?utm_campaign=toc
>    _sci-mag_2019-05-30&et_rid=17045989&et_cid=2840296
>    New book "The Uninhabitable Earth"  First sentence: "It is much, much
>    worse
>    than you think."
>    Read first (short) chapter open access:
>    [7]https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/read-a-chapter-from-the-uninhabita
>    ble-earth-a-dire-warning-on-climate-change
>    Want a Green New Deal?  Here's a better one.
>    [8]https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/want-a-green-new-deal-heres-
>    a-better-one/2019/02/24/2d7e491c-36d2-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html
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>    2. mailto:nicrane at cabrillo.edu
>    3. mailto:coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>    4.
> https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-019-01988-9?WT.ec_id=NATURE-20190627&utm_source=nature_etoc&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20190627&sap-outbound-id=F6879643729B698E3E09146A03F27DA843F58E1B&mkt-key=005056B0331B1ED782EEA4D8C7ECAFA3
>    5. http://www.cabrillo.edu/~ncrane
>    6.
> https://science.sciencemag.org/content/364/6443/807?utm_campaign=toc_sci-mag_2019-05-30&et_rid=17045989&et_cid=2840296
>    7.
> https://www.pbs.org/newshour/arts/read-a-chapter-from-the-uninhabitable-earth-a-dire-warning-on-climate-change
>    8.
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/want-a-green-new-deal-heres-a-better-one/2019/02/24/2d7e491c-36d2-11e9-af5b-b51b7ff322e9_story.html?utm_term=.a3fc8337cbf8
>    9. mailto:Coral-List at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
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