[Coral-List] ICRS2020 and remote meetings

Ryan McMinds r.mcminds at gmail.com
Fri Sep 20 17:01:16 UTC 2019


I have to throw my hat in the ring to support Francesca. It continues to befuddle me that the coral reef scientific community refuses to acknowledge that the 'systemic adjustments' that are needed will require some sacrifices - and that it is foolish to expect the wider public to sacrifice without first demonstrating our own willingness to do the same. This is a question of leadership and of hypocrisy.
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Ryan McMinds

> On 20 Sep2019, at 08:44, frahome--- via Coral-List <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
> 
> Latest posts tried to proof that 1) planes are more efficient than cars (is this really relevant to the discussion where nobody was suggesting to replace planes with cars?)2) planes are only 2% of the world emissions ( predicted to grow if demand doesn't change in a situation where the world is called instead to cut emission by 50% by 2030 and 100% by 2050). Based on the above data/science you would conclude that it is ok for scientists to emit 10 t or more of CO2 emissions per capita per year when the per capita budget to avoid climate breakdown is 0.6 t? Concluding otherwise would be based on passion and emotions? Francesca
> 
>    On Thursday, September 19, 2019, 07:13:26 PM GMT+2, Luiz Rocha via Coral-List <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:  
> 
> Absolutely Osmar, and here another article on the topic that came out today:
> 
> https://ensia.com/voices/flight-shaming-flying-travel-carbon-co2-emissions-flyless-aviation-cars-trains/
> 
> A few juicy bits from the article:
> 
> 1. "Passenger aircraft emissions are in the same range as nearly all road
> transport emissions".
> 
> 2. "An individual’s decision to take or not take public transit does not
> affect the emissions of that trip. But a decision to drive does. So, if you
> choose to drive because it is more climate friendly than flying short-haul,
> you are adding an extra car on the road while the plane would have flown
> anyway."
> 
> 3. "While we want to reduce the climate impacts of aviation, we need to
> remember that flying produces only 2% of total emissions today. Even if
> everyone were to stop flying, the total climate mitigation impact would be
> negligible."
> 
> I wish people (especially scientists) used less passion and more
> data/science in their decision making process.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Luiz
> 
> *Luiz A. Rocha, PhD*
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