[Coral-List] Is it Ocean Optimism or Toxic Positivity?

Wed Aug 26 20:21:49 UTC 2020

I agree, except for the last sentence, which I would change to something
like "what would it cost to remedy the causes of coral degradation?  What
would it cost, and what would the cost be if we fail to do it??"  I think
coral restoration is treating symptoms, not the disease, and so it is
doomed to failure if we don't effectively address the causes of the
decline.  And I don't think we should just look at the costs of action,
we'd better look at the costs of inaction, because those are likely to be
much greater.  Those algae beds will not provide the fish that are the
difference between survival and not surviving for a few hundred million
people in developing countries.    Cheers, Doug

On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 1:52 AM Hilary Lohmann via Coral-List <
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:

> I wrestle with this too.
>
> I think the research community depends on optimism.
>
> But the management community, I think, owes pragmatism. Are coastal
> managers talking about a future without productive coral reefs? What could
> that look like? Can we unpack that dispassionately so that we plan
> responsibly for future coastal people and places?
>
> What is and isn't going to happen to the coastal zone as coral reefs turn
> into mostly algae and limestone with some living corals too? What could it
> mean for fisheries, beaches, other coastal zone management
> responsibilities? What could 2030 look like under scenarios of worst case,
> best case, and somewhere in-between for coral reefs? What will it cost to
> address coral restoration at life-support scale, and how might we afford
> it?
>
>
> cheers
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 25, 2020 at 11:33 AM Steve via Coral-List <
> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi Rebecca,
> >
> > Thank you for responding.
> >
> > You are right that I was calling out “a small group of people”, but it
> > wasn’t meant as an indictment of ALL who are “trying their damndest to
> save
> > a few species” of corals.
> >
> > I was more specifically calling out those whose outreach efforts appear
> to
> > be strategically avoiding mention of the inescapable need to address
> major
> > threats. How can we realistically maintain positivity for the future of
> > coral reefs and other marine ecosystems when we have prominent, highly
> > publicized and well-funded restoration projects steering clear of
> > advocating for action on climate change, water-quality and over-fishing?
> > That is, to some extent, my litmus test. I just don’t understand how they
> > can claim to be working to “save coral reefs” while, by omission,
> > undermining the need to act on local and global stressors.
> >
> > Sincere regards,
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > Sent from EarthLink Mobile mail
> >
> > On 8/24/20, 12:24 PM, Rebecca Vega Thurber <rvegathurber at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Steve,
> >
> > Maybe we have been reading different Coral Lists, but from my reading I
> > doubt anyone could classify the coral reef community of being anything
> but
> > toxic NEGATIVE. Just because some of us refuse to give up doesn't make us
> > Toxic Positive. The fact that you called out a small group of people who
> > are trying their damndest to save a few species says a lot. -Becky
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 24, 2020 at 4:47 AM Steve via Coral-List <
> > coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov (mailto:coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov)>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Dear Coral-Listers,
> >
> > I recently came across an article in The Washington Post entitled Time To
> > Ditch Toxic Positivity, Experts Say - It’s Okay Not To Be Okay. Although
> it
> > was primarily referring to how people choose to deal with COVID19 and
> > widespread social unrest, I saw a direct connection to the ways in which
> we
> > choose to cope with our growing consternation over the unceasing demise
> of
> > the world’s coral reefs.
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/wellness/toxic-positivity-mental-health-covid/2020/08/19/5dff8d16-e0c8-11ea-8181-606e603bb1c4_story.html
> >
> > We all know that when faced with adversity it can be beneficial to frame
> > things in a way designed to keep spirits high, but can too much forced
> > positivity be toxic? Could this somehow apply to coral science today? If
> we
> > don’t put proper emphasis on what we know is killing coral reefs and
> > instead choose to promote short-term successes, are we “shutting out the
> > possibility for further contemplation”?
> >
> > It seems that almost every day now I’m being bombarded by public outreach
> > efforts that suggest that there are good reasons to believe that
> > outplanting of genetically modified corals might be the solution to the
> > coral reef crisis. As when forced to deal with negative emotions about
> the
> > pandemic, everyone prefers to exude optimism, but psychologists warn that
> > it can be problematic when people profess positivity in situations where
> > it’s not natural or realistic (like when coral reefs are dying worldwide)
> > or when there are problems that legitimately need to be addressed (like
> > water quality; over-fishing; and climate change) and you choose instead
> to
> > deflect attention away from major stressors onto something more rosy
> (like
> > our outplanted corals are spawning!).
> >
> > So, I’m wondering, is anybody else concerned that this form of ocean
> > optimism, though comforting and reassuring, may prove counterproductive
> in
> > that it could delay the development of real solutions for the most
> critical
> > issues at hand, or, is this just an indication that I have morphed into a
> > dispirited old curmudgeon?
> >
> > Cheers?
> >
> > Steve Mussman
> >
> > Sent from EarthLink Mobile mail
> >
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> >
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> >
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> >
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