[Coral-List] Source for "coral occupy <1% of the seafloor but house more than 25% of species"

[Judith Lang]

Thank you very much Hanny for this “interim update.” 

Have to add that it will be difficult to calculate the surface of the world’s reef more accurately with the classification approach currently employed by the Allen Atlas team if our limited experience last winter (I think it was) with the Jamaican draft prior to its release is any guide.

Judy Lang
AGRRA Scientific Coordinator

> On 11 Dec 2020, at 08:40, Denis Allemand <allemand at centrescientifique.mc> wrote:
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> Dear Hanny
> 
> Many thanks for this update. It would be interesting to refine the surface of the world's reefs using more modern techniques…
> Best regards
> Denis
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>> Le 11 déc. 2020 à 04:25, Hanny Rivera <hrivera28 at gmail.com <mailto:hrivera28 at gmail.com>> a écrit :
>> 
>> Hi all! 
>> 
>> A while back, I had written asking for help tracking down the source for this statement. Thank you to all who responded and helped! There were a number of folks who also asked me to let them know what I found. Sorry for the long delay! A recent twitter post reminded me I hadn't followed up. 
>> 
>> Anyways: The original reference (at least the most original that I could find) is McAllister 1991. I had to do a lot of digging to find the actual paper, though I finally came across it here: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/ptid=uc1.31822009136755&view=1up&seq=22 <https://mib1.mailinblack.com/securelink/?key=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> 
>> As you might see, it's not entirely clear where the numbers come from though. 
>> 
>> Dan Barshis
>>  had pointed me to Smith 1978 (https://www.nature.com/articles/273225a0 <https://mib1.mailinblack.com/securelink/?key=eyJ1cmwiOiJodHRwczovL3d3dy5uYXR1cmUuY29tL2FydGljbGVzLzI3MzIyNWEwIiwibGFuZyI6IkZSIiwidG9rZW4iOiJnQUFBQUFCZjB1Ym9Va2NsTkZRYXhUXzVkQXlnNGRSUi1MOFZ3R2FDMExmQW5xdlBMdzV5VGp6R1daTW9mTWQwWWlIbFZseVhpd3FESGJnUnlrTlRKcjZwSHhrQnJ2UGtMVlk1S0V0R2I1Vk1ya3RuQ1FuMkM5UWtMWWVSZWdlbFRwSlhZM211ZldGWFNteVRIb0xrTF9KZEQ4WnppWFpwSVlHUTNpbEpkT3JCQXFaV2VZNnRWNG16WFdfcXZXOWlKYnRXUFBaVHRUQnBDZ3FyVE1ycnVzV3AyejZCMWNINXBGUk15RHZBNzgwMXJrV2NpU2Iza0FDWTROSEgzRGRTcG4tRFNTTXJWUzhZVjVVVDY4Qlo2U2ctTWxLSE8tOVllM01OQ1lkakpndm5KYjNjZG01MTY0Q19nT19uTjljX1gzekFQUHljRHhUTyJ9>) as a more viable source for the area estimation (though it's a bit outdated) and Fisher et al 2015 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0960982214016236 <https://mib1.mailinblack.com/securelink/?key=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>) as a reference for species richness on reefs.
>> 
>> A more recent area estimate is Spalding et al. 2001 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0308597X17300635 <https://mib1.mailinblack.com/securelink/?key=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>) which was pointed out to me by Dennis Allemand
>> 
>> Dennis Allemand also has several other references for species #s that live on reefs in his paper (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352485518305978?via%3Dihub <https://mib1.mailinblack.com/securelink/?key=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>) on page 2. 
>> 
>> Thanks again all! Hope this is helpful for folks going forward. 
>> 
>> Best, Hanny 
>> 
>> -- 
>> Hanny E. Rivera, Ph.D.
>> Postdoctoral Associate and Lecturer
>> Boston University, Biology Department
>> Davies Marine Population Genomics Lab
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