[Coral-List] Octopus punches fishes

Alina Szmant alina at cisme-instruments.com
Wed Dec 30 14:59:09 UTC 2020

Hence the need for veganism to take over as well as dramatic curbs on human population size. There is not enough land area left to feed all humans on Earth today plus projected human growth with a plant based diet and not impact what is left of wilderness and wildlife, including coral reefs as a source of fish protein for those who adopt a fish-plant based diet.

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 I guess you meant to say "they should NOT be treated as vertebrates are". Such kind of statements makes me wondering: are we actually all aware how we are treating vertebrates? Fish, pigs, chickens, cows and calfs, goats, sheep, lambs not to mention all sort of wildlife up to primates?Let's have a look a little beyond the plate sitting in front of us, especially during holiday season.The octopous are amazing, so they are all other animals (even if not all punch).Francesca
    On Tuesday, December 22, 2020, 09:04:40 PM GMT+1, Eduardo Sampaio via Coral-List <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:  
  Hi David,

Glad you liked it!
There is also a rising interest on (and feasibility of) octopus aquaculture which is bringing some ethical questions into light. Personally, I think they should be treated as vertebrates are.
Regarding the train track, I'm actually not sure (researchers from Eilat that are part of this list will know better), but maybe it was related with the underwater 'habitat' that was active there some years ago under Hans Fricke? If someone can answer, I would love to know as well.

On Tue, 22 Dec 2020 at 11:54, David Blakeway < fathom5marineresearch at gmail.com> wrote:

> Great! Thanks Eduardo. They are quite beautiful and mysterious.
> It makes me a little depressed that our Western Australian government 
> has just approved a large scale wild catch fishery of the local O. 
> tetricus without, as far as I can see, any ethical considerations. The 
> title of the government report says it all:
> Octopus resource of Western Australia harvest strategy 2018-2022.
> What is the train-track looking thing in video 1?
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