[Coral-List] A Swim Through Time on Carysfort Reef; EFFORT TO ASSEMBLE A LIST OF REMAINING HEALTHY CARIBBEAN CORAL REEFS
Douglas Fenner
douglasfennertassi at gmail.com
Wed Jul 29 23:30:10 UTC 2020
Thank you, Phil, for this fabulous presentation. EVERYONE should see
it. I think you are spot on. We have been losing this war from the day it
began. Humanity so far has been totally unwilling to make the scale of
commitment to fix this problem and reverse the downward slide. Now with
global warming the number one threat for the future that will kill most of
what remains within 20-30 years, maybe less. And we do not fix this at
our own peril. When the corals are 90% dead, will the dive tourism
industry still be booming? Will they pay their hard earned money to see
the dead corals in your pictures?? When the corals are 90% dead, will the
hundreds of millions of people in low income countries that absolutely
depend on coral reef fish catch for food and survival, what will they do?
Will the developed countries care? Or just let them starve? Stop them
from coming across the border or worse?
I fleshed out many of these problems in my own presentation
to the Aquarium of the Pacific, which was not nearly as well spoken or
illustrated as yours, but with the same bottom line and a bunch more
details. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SM8bEm3ocI&t=26s
Cheers, Doug
On Wed, Jul 29, 2020 at 2:48 AM Phillip Dustan via Coral-List <
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
> I made this video to open eyes about the dramatic changes that have
> occurred in a short time.
> Many of the current crop of reef biologists have no idea of what we've
> lost.
> All the nature films to increase people's love for the sea, all the
> monitoring projects that increase our resolution, all the management, all
> the restoration, all the rhetoric about protecting reefs, etc.... on and on
> have not worked.
> The mantra that people protect what they love has proven false.
> It's more like, "People exploit what they need to make money, then move on
> to richer places to do the same over and over...."
> While the scientific community has greatly increased our resolving power to
> watch reefs degrade, we have not figured out how to keep reefs from
> disappearing...
> This is the point of my offering at this time - more of an emotional
> plea than a documentary.
> I've always thought a coffee table book titled :How they Die" about all the
> human activities that kill coral reefs would be interesting as all the
> current and past books are eye candy divorced from current reality.
> Maybe a website of such atrocities would help jar people into action?
> Reefs are ecosystems, not resources.
> Phil
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 9:03 AM Steve Gittings - NOAA Federal <
> steve.gittings at noaa.gov> wrote:
>
> > Alina - I was part of that 1981 group with Tom Bright at Carysfort Light.
> > It was with mixed feelings thatI had to leave a couple weeks early to
> > attend my wedding! Still, looking back, it was such a privilege to see
> > such a seemingly healthy place just a few years before the coral world
> > changed so dramatically.
> >
> > I like the idea of hearing about places that haven't changed much since
> > the 70s or before. I'll put the Flower Garden Banks out there. The
> > earliest dives and pictures there were in the early 60s and the first
> > measurements of coral cover in the early 70s. Very little has changed,
> > though macroalgae is more persistent since the *Diadema *dieoff. Coral
> > cover, which when first measured was just under 50% on the reef caps, is
> > now closer to 60%. There are lionfish, but impacts to native fish are
> not
> > evident yet, and they are trying to control abundance with culling. It
> is
> > certainly not without threats, but the banks seem to benefit from their
> > isolation.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > On Tue, Jul 28, 2020 at 8:45 AM Alina Szmant via Coral-List <
> > coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks Phil for the nostalgia. I first visited Carysfort in 1981 when I
> >> stayed for two weeks out at the lighthouse with Tom Bright's group doing
> >> nutrient uptake experiments with A cervicornis, and it was incredibly
> >> beautiful. The US Coast Guard had trouble bringing their boats to the
> >> lighthouse pier because the coral was so thick and shallow everywhere.
> From
> >> the light house tower, one could watch giant blue and rainbow
> parrotfishes
> >> swimming among the A palmata colonies that extended seaward for 100 m or
> >> more on the reef flat. When I returned with Peter Glyn and a class of
> >> students the spring of 1984, there wasn't any live Acropora coral
> anywhere
> >> (we did transects). It was shocking! In the mid 2000's Margaret Miller
> and
> >> I tried to do our coral larval rearing research working from the
> >> lighthouse, and still almost no coral, and the large Orbicella colonies
> >> were mostly dead as well. I am glad I had a chance to see this reef (and
> >> many similar ones in Puerto Rico) back in the day, because I am pretty
> sure
> >> they won't recover within what is left of my lifetime. There may be
> great
> >> live coral gardens in places like the Solomons, but the situation in the
> >> Caribbean is dire and getting worse in my experience.
> >>
> >> That said: I think it would be useful for Coral-List researchers to
> start
> >> a list of places within the Caribbean that are still close to what was
> the
> >> norm back in the 1970s. If there are clusters of localities that haven't
> >> been impacted by bleaching, disease epidemics, flattened by major storms
> >> but recovered, that would be a worthwhile list to compile and serve as a
> >> basis for investigating factors that have allowed some places to survive
> >> while others have succumbed.
> >>
> >> I volunteer to assemble such information if anyone out there is willing
> >> to share, and I send out an updated list monthly to all on Coral List.
> If
> >> you know of sites that still look like the 1975 version of Carysfort and
> >> can document this with short video, collection of photos or even
> better...
> >> data... and want to be part of such an effort, please contact me.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Alina
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >> Phillip Dustan via Coral-List
> >> Sent: Monday, July 27, 2020 8:47 AM
> >> To: Coral List <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
> >> Subject: [Coral-List] A Swim Through Time on Carysfort Reef
> >>
> >> Hi Listers,
> >> We talk a lot about management and conservation but the reality is
> >> humanity lacks the political will to address the fundamentals unless
> there
> >> is a direct and instant return on investment.
> >> Science tells us that coral reefs are ecosystems, not resources. The
> very
> >> adaptations that enable them to thrive in nutrient poor tropical seas
> >> leaves them vulnerable to humans. Maybe one day we will act on that
> >> reality, but right now I fear we are just trying to make ourselves feel
> >> better, or develop a more and more precise way to document the collapse
> of
> >> reefs all the while increasing the level of funding for our
> labs/agencies.
> >> This approach has not, and is not working.
> >>
> >> Something to think about while most of us are out of the water this
> >> summer.
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCPJE7UE6sA
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Phillip Dustan PhD
> >> Charleston SC 29424
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> >> *Bali Coral Bleaching 2016 video*
> >>
> >> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxOfLTnPSUo
> >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxOfLTnPSUo>*
> >> TEDx Charleston on saving coral reefs
> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwENBNrfKj4
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> Phillip Dustan PhD
> Charleston SC 29424
> 843-953-8086 office
> 843-224-3321 (mobile)
>
> "When we try to pick out anything by itself
> we find that it is bound fast by a thousand invisible cords
> that cannot be broken, to everything in the universe. "
> * John Muir 1869*
>
> *A Swim Through TIme on Carysfort Reef*
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCPJE7UE6sA
> *Raja Ampat Sustainability Project video*
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RR2SazW_VY&fbclid=IwAR09oZkEk8wQkK6LN3XzVGPgAWSujACyUfe2Ist__nYxRRSkDE_jAYqkJ7A
> *Bali Coral Bleaching 2016 video*
>
> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxOfLTnPSUo
> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxOfLTnPSUo>*
> TEDx Charleston on saving coral reefs
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwENBNrfKj4
> Google Scholar Citations:
> https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=HCwfXZ0AAAAJ
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