[Coral-List] Stop flying????!

[Ehsan KAYAL]

It is so frustrating to see so many scientists not looking at the greater
picture when it comes to pollution and destruction of the environment, but
rather use a colonial mindset to impose ones own cultural preferences.
No Alina, going vegan will likely not change the current path toward
environmental collapse simply because the dominant socio-economic system
called capitalism that is focused on permanent growth will continue to
ravage the Earth in order to accumulate. The famous graph by T. Picketty &
colleagues that showed that the top 10% of humans (most scientists belong
to this group) are responsible for 50% of CO2 emission was based on the
overall lifestyle, including not only eating meat but also having
out-of-season food (like strawberries in winter), obtaining the latest
electronic toys (whose manufacture has required air & water pollution in
places like China and Vietnam who are later accused of that same
pollution), multiple yearly travels to exotic places, etc.
Therefore, thinking that a diet change is the one silver bullet that would
keep you to from changing your lifestyle and keep on consuming is beyond
self delusion.
Cheers,
E
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Ehsan Kayal, PhD
Station Biologique de Roscoff
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Place Georges Teissier
CS 90074
29688 Roscoff Cedex
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ehsan.kayal at sb-roscoff.fr
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On Tue, 10 Mar 2020 at 18:53, Alina Szmant via Coral-List <
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:

> Great if people want to stop flying. But ALL aviation is only 2 % of
> global fossil fuel emissions while animal agriculture produces 30 % of
> global emissions,  and animal agriculture account for 60+% of land use
> which means deforestation and habitat destruction, lots of pollution and
> animal suffering.  So go vegan and travel to your heart's content.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Sue Wells via Coral-List <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
> Date: 3/9/20 9:14 AM (GMT-05:00)
> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
> Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Stop flying????!
>
>
>
> Well done, Mark.  Yes, we must reduce our travel significantly - once the
> virus peak is over there is likely to be a rush to take holidays and hold
> meetings and the skies will be full of planes again.  You rightly question
> whether enough effort is being made to enable "virtual" attendance at coral
> reef meetings.  I know that people are looking into this, and hope that
> some
> solutions will soon be on offer.
>
>
>
> In the meantime, my recent positive experience might be of interest. Over
> the course of 4 days in February, from the comfort of my office in
> Cambridge, I dialled into two international meetings, one in Washington DC
> on MPAs and one in Germany on protected areas more generally.  Both were
> fairly small (DC had 65 participants, with 5 dialling in; Germany probably
> less than 50 with c. 3 dialling in) and involved plenary sessions with
> break-out discussion groups.  There was a joint session when the two
> meetings "met" virtually, with others dialling in remotely.  The meeting in
> Germany used "global.gotomeeting.com" and the DC meeting used "webex" -
> both
> systems seemed to work fairly well for those dialling in.
>
>
>
> Overall, the presentations worked well (as is the case with webinars), and
> I
> could follow the plenary Q&A sessions and for the most part get noticed if
> I
> wanted to ask a question myself.  Ironically the one session when the
> presentations did not work was the MPA one on technology, but this turned
> out to be "human error" rather than anything technical with the dialling-in
> system.
>
>
>
> One big advantage was that I could attend both meetings, unlike other
> participants.  With the time zone difference, this led to some long days
> but
> it was worth it.  I could provide feedback from one meeting to the other -
> particularly useful for the discussions on the CBD post2020 target for
> protected areas which evolved as the meetings progressed.
>
>
>
> So what did I miss? Break-out groups were of course not possible to join,
> and I did miss the social side (catching up with old friends and making new
> ones) and networking.  I would not want to do it for every meeting.
>
>
>
> But in some ways I achieved as much as I did by participating in person
> last
> year in another meeting on protected areas, held in a mountainous part of
> Italy.   In line with my aim not to fly when overland transport is
> available, I used trains and buses.  I spent 2 days and 3 nights (c. 60
> hrs)
> at the meeting location, and over 3.5 days and 2 nights (some 70 hrs)
> travelling.  Admittedly, there were some unusual aspects to the trip, which
> coincided on my way back with temperatures of 40oC in France and a major
> disruption to train services due to an accident But it gave me some real
> insight of what travelling will be like once the effects of climate change
> fully take hold.  International conservation meetings should definitely no
> longer be held in remote locations, however beautiful the surroundings,
> unless absolutely essential.
>
>
>
> As Mark says, we need to reduce travelling, keep flights to a minimum/those
> that are essential and unavoidable, and use the rapidly developing
> technology more effectively to keep in touch with each other.
>
>
>
> Sue Wells
>
>
>
> Sue Wells
>
> 95 Burnside
>
> Cambridge CB1 3PA
>
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