[Coral-List] eDNA can be used to measure coral cover

Risk, Michael riskmj at mcmaster.ca
Tue Jun 8 21:22:27 UTC 2021


   Phil:

   This is funny-not funny. You are right on the money-a lot of reef
   research these days is resume-padding which will in no way help the
   reefs.

   I think maybe 20 years ago, on this site, I said that the world's reefs
   would have a rosier future of all the "reef scientists" quit and taught
   elementary school.

   I disagree strongly with your overpopulation angle, and draw your
   attention to "A September 2020 [1]report by Oxfam found that from 1990
   to 2015 -- a critical 25-year period during which humans doubled the
   amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere -- the wealthiest 1 percent
   of the world's population accounted for more than twice as much carbon
   pollution as the 3.1 billion people who made up the poorest half of
   humanity."

   It's not the little brown people who are the problem, it's the big rich
   white ones.

   Mike
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   From: Coral-List <coral-list-bounces at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> on behalf of
   Phillip Dustan via Coral-List <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
   Sent: Tuesday, June 8, 2021 8:29 AM
   To: Douglas Fenner <douglasfennertassi at gmail.com>
   Cc: coral list <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
   Subject: Re: [Coral-List] eDNA can be used to measure coral cover

   Once again, Western Science has figured out another way to apply
   advanced
   technological tools to measure the loss of coral reefs. I will bet
   anyone a
   case of beer that most people who rely on reefs in their daily lives
   could
   not tell you what 50% of the nouns in this paper are, let alone why
   they
   might be relevant. Leslie Watkins, the longtime gardener at Discovery
   Bay
   Marine Lab once told me," Phil, you don't even have to visit the reef
   to
   see it is dying. From here (the DBML breezway) you can see it is dark
   brown, no longer golden and alive."
    Every new paper about reefs now begins with "..... the most threatened
   ecosystems in the sea or on the planet....." and then goes about saying
   how
   this offering will make a difference. When are we going to realise that
   our
   behavior is enabling the continued destruction of reefs? None of the
   normal
   reasons add up anymore. Rees do not need us to invent new techniques to
   monitor their demise. Reefs don't NEED funds to keep our laboratories
   chock
   full of  new state-of-the-art PCR machines, 50mb cameras, or
   supercomputers.  I think the coral reef science community is stuck
   chasing
   its tail in an ever decreasing circle.
   My last post asked if we were ready to really do something meaningful.
   That
   begins at home, the lab, the institution, and society.
   Alina is spot on correct. Overpopulation is the driver of our demise.
   Maybe
   we should begin to recognize it, popularize it, work towards solutions,
   and
   stop trying to hide behind technology............
    There are over 10,000 people who monitor the Coral_List. Steve Gitting
   suggests the list is "only for discussion" and we all know it is
   overseen
   by an agency embedded in the US Commerce Department. So why can't it be
   a
   priority for us all to work towards a day when natural infrastructure
   is
   valued over economic growth. Nations can always print more money but,
   as we
   discuss on this platform, we really can't make more reefs, or other
   ecosystems, or even a planet without the appropriate natural
   infrastructure. Watching it die with an ever finer resolving
   "microscope"
   might be intellectually satisfying but sadly ineffective...............
    So please, do at least one thing every day to help the oceans heal and
   remember that THE OCEAN BEGINS AT YOUR FRONT DOOR. Take your knowledge
   outside of your laboratory and the pages of scientific publications.
   Get
   political because science in a vacuum is useless.
     Happy Ocean Week,
      Phil
   On Tue, Jun 8, 2021 at 7:38 AM Douglas Fenner via Coral-List <
   coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
   > Rapid assessment of coral cover from environmental DNA in Hawaii
   >
   > [2]https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/edn3.8
   >
   > open-access
   >
   > To quote from the abstract: "Given its broad applicability and ease
   of
   > use..."   Yes, everyone on every tiny island nation with coral reefs
   can do
   > PCR on their coffee break, it is as easy as using a pencil and paper
   to
   > write.  No equipment or prior knowledge needed.  Obviously the
   authors have
   > no idea what the real world is like in other island nations outside
   their
   > lab in the giant and well funded first-world University of Hawaii.
   >
   >     I note that they had to develop primers specific to the corals in
   > Hawaii.  So looks like for other places that would have to be done
   over,
   > for much higher diversity, Hawaii has a relatively low coral
   diversity.
   >
   > Please excuse the sarcasm, but really.   Cheers, Doug
   >
   > --
   > Douglas Fenner
   > Lynker Technologies, LLC, Contractor
   > NOAA Fisheries Service
   > Pacific Islands Regional Office
   > Honolulu
   > and:
   > Coral Reef Consulting
   > PO Box 997390
   > Pago Pago, American Samoa 96799-6298  USA
   >
   > Slashing emissions by 2050 isn't enough.  We can bring down
   temperature
   > now.
   >
   >
   [3]https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/climate-deadlines-super-pollu
   tants-hfcs-methane/2021/04/15/acb8c612-9d7d-11eb-b7a8-014b14aeb9e4_stor
   y.html
   >
   > Humans have destroyed 97% of earth's ecosystems
   > (well, more like only 3% are fully intact)
   > [4]https://a.msn.com/r/2/BB1fH7DT?m=en-us&referrerID=InAppShare
   >
   > Study: One-third of plant and animal species could be gone in 50
   years.
   > (but 2-4 times worse in tropics)
   > [5]https://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2020-02/uoa-soo021220.php
   > [6]https://www.pnas.org/content/117/8/4211
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   "When we try to pick out anything by itself
   we find that it is bound fast by a thousand invisible cords
   that cannot be broken, to everything in the universe. "
   *                                         John Muir 1869*
   *A Swim Through TIme on Carysfort Reef*
   [8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCPJE7UE6sA
   *Raja Ampat Sustainability Project video*
   [9]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RR2SazW_VY&fbclid=IwAR09oZkEk8wQkK6
   LN3XzVGPgAWSujACyUfe2Ist__nYxRRSkDE_jAYqkJ7A
   *Bali Coral Bleaching 2016 video*
   *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxOfLTnPSUo
   <[10]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxOfLTnPSUo>*
   TEDx Charleston on saving coral reefs
   [11]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwENBNrfKj4
   Google Scholar Citations:
   [12]https://scholar.google.com/citations?user=HCwfXZ0AAAAJ
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References

   1. https://go.redirectingat.com?id=66960X1516588&xs=1&url=https://www.oxfam.org/en/press-releases/carbon-emissions-richest-1-percent-more-double-emissions-poorest-half-humanity&referrer=vox.com&sref=https://www.vox.com/22456663/arizona-environment-immigration-climate-change-right-wing&xcust=___vx__p_22220704__m_climate.ad.20210608__s_email_
   2. https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1002/edn3.8
   3. https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/climate-deadlines-super-pollutants-hfcs-methane/2021/04/15/acb8c612-9d7d-11eb-b7a8-014b14aeb9e4_story.html
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   7. https://coral.aoml.noaa.gov/mailman/listinfo/coral-list
   8. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCPJE7UE6sA
   9. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RR2SazW_VY&fbclid=IwAR09oZkEk8wQkK6LN3XzVGPgAWSujACyUfe2Ist__nYxRRSkDE_jAYqkJ7A
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