[Coral-List] Questions Goliath Grouper Re: My name on the list

Eugene Shinn eugeneshinn at mail.usf.edu
Mon Oct 11 16:40:45 UTC 2021

Sarah, You seem to imply I was in favor of taking Gollith Grouper. As 
you may recall I simply asked if there was some ecological/scientific 
reason for lifting the ban that I did not know about. Still have not 
seen the numbers. The last time I speared what were called Jew Fish was 
in the 1960s. One of my summer jobs as a student was in a fish market 
where I learned howto skin and fillet those fish so they could be sold 
as snapper fingers. In those days few people on the east coast of fla 
would eat anything called a gouper. They also did not eat mullet.
At the time they were popular fish on the west coast of Florida. Grouper 
sandwiches are still very popular over here. Just a little history for 
you since I suspect you were not born yet when they were still called 
Jew Fish. Gene PS: That is a great photo you sent. I never saw more than 
2 on a wreck back in the 50s and 60s.

On 10/7/21 6:36 PM, Sarah Frias-Torres wrote:
> Gene
> Your question: Is there some ecological reason for proposing they 
> [Goliath Grouper]can be taken?
> Answer: No. There is no scientific support for opening a fishery for 
> Goliath Grouper.
> A more detailed answer is in several posts in my blog. They are still 
> valid today
> Science Blog: https://grouperluna.com/
> For a more detailed overview, this is a useful paper
> Koenig CC, Koenig, Coleman FC, Malinowski CR (2020) Atlantic Goliath 
> Grouper of Florida: To Fish or Not to Fish. Fisheries Magazine 45 (1): 
> 20-32
> https://marinelab.fsu.edu/media/3878/2020_koenig_et-al_goliathgroupe-fisheries_distrib.pdf
> Let me know if you have more questions
> <><...<><...<><...
> Sarah Frias-Torres, Ph.D.
> Twitter: @GrouperDoc
> Science Blog: https://grouperluna.com/
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> *Subject:* [Coral-List] My name on the list
> Why am I mentioned on the list? For example:  "2. Re: Proposed Killing
> of Goliath Grouper (Eugene Shinn) (Ault Jerald Stephen) (Sarah
> Frias-Torres) (Douglas Fenner)"
> Weeks ago I asked why the Big Grouper was being considered for taking. I
> wondered if there was some ecological reason for proposing they can be
> taken. I sure got a lot of nasty mail just for asking the question.
> Never got an answer so I assume it was all emotional and not based on
> any scientific or environmental data. That's ok with me. I was just
> under the impression that coral reef researchers used the list to make
> scientific observations. Gene
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