[Coral-List] Cause of current coral reef and many other problems.

[Ehsan KAYAL]

One can hit around the bushes but as long as one ignores the socio-economic
system of capitalism (i.e., production for the profit of a few owners of
capital) that relies on a compound growth rate of 3-4%, all the finger
wagging is worthless.
E

On Fri, 4 Aug 2023 at 10:36, Bill Allison via Coral-List <
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:

> I have run into industry consultants who ignore technology as one of the
> determinants of fishing effort even though it is explicitly recognized as
> such in the fisheries economics literature (a no-brainer imho).
>
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2023 at 8:39 AM Douglas Fenner via Coral-List <
> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
>
> >   And also as Paul Ehrlich wrote, technology.  The tools used in fishing
> > coral reefs today were not available in pre-modern times, no steel hooks,
> > nylon lines, no aluminum and fiberglass boats, no engines, mask, snorkel,
> > fins regulator, tanks and on and on.  Hooks were carved from shells,
> lines
> > formed from coconut fibers, boats from hollowed out logs, powered by
> > paddling or sails, etc.  NO ONE on this planet uses only the old tools to
> > fish, because it takes a lot more hard work and is much less effective.
> > Overfishing is largely possible because of technology, it would be much
> > harder without.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 1, 2023 at 4:02 AM John Ware via Coral-List <
> > coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > Hello List,
> > >
> > > As I have been saying for many, many years: The problem is that there
> > > are too many of us  and each of us (including myself!) consume too many
> > > resources.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
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