[Coral-List] Coral restoration trashing

Mon Aug 21 20:10:35 UTC 2023

Thank you, Luiz. I second every word you said.
Cheers,
Raquel

On Mon, 21 Aug 2023 at 10:59 PM Rebecca Vega Thurber via Coral-List <
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:

> Luiz,
> You said what so many of us are thinking.  Thank you for standing up for
> this group of practitioners and scientists who are continuously
> scapegoated, but working hard everyday to make a difference despite the
> immense odds.     -Becky
>
> On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 11:01 AM Joanie Kleypas via Coral-List <
> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
>
> > I second Jeremy - Thank you, Luiz!
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 10:53 AM JJ via Coral-List <
> > coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > > BRAVO!!!!!!!!!!!!
> > > jeremy
> > >
> > > On Mon, Aug 21, 2023 at 11:39 AM Luiz Rocha via Coral-List <
> > > coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Alright, I've had it. I am sick and tired of the constant trashing
> and
> > > > criticism that coral restoration projects and that any science even
> > > > remotely related to restoration are getting. Even though I don't work
> > on
> > > it
> > > > (directly or indirectly) I know a lot of scientists working on coral
> > > > restoration. And I also know a lot of restoration projects. Not a
> > single
> > > > one of them has ever said that the solution for the coral reef crysis
> > is
> > > > coral restoration. This is hyperbole created either by the media and
> > the
> > > > critics of coral restoration.
> > > >
> > > > Now more specifically about the critiques to every kind of science
> > > related
> > > > to restoration. If we put together all of the dollars that went into
> > > coral
> > > > restoration science, in all of human history, that adds up to (very
> > > > graciously) about half a billion dollars. For those that keep saying
> > that
> > > > we can solve the climate crisis with coral restoration dollars,
> please,
> > > > please, tell me how 500 million dollars would solve climate change.
> If
> > > you
> > > > sit down and really think about it, I hope you realize that climate
> > > change
> > > > is not a money problem. We have the money and the solutions to do it.
> > > What
> > > > we do not have is the political will.
> > > >
> > > > And for those that keep saying that corals in air conditioned aquaria
> > are
> > > > not a solution, rhinos in zoos aren't either, so should we kill them
> > all
> > > > and be done with it? The only surviving individuals of unique genetic
> > > > lineages of several species that used to be in Florida are now only
> > alive
> > > > in aquaria. So let's use the few hundreds of thousands of dollars
> being
> > > > used to keep them alive to convince Ron De Santis and Donald Trump
> that
> > > > climate change is real. Yeah, that's gonna work. These dollars (even
> if
> > > > dollars could solve climate change, which they won't) are not
> competing
> > > > with climate change dollars. That's like asking to stop funding coral
> > > > taxonomy because giving coral species names is only rearranging the
> > > chairs
> > > > in the Titanic. That argument can be used for any branch of science
> > that
> > > is
> > > > not fighting climate change. And it is not true.
> > > >
> > > > So, get off your horses, fight climate change the best way you can,
> and
> > > > keep doing science, even if it's not related to climate change.
> Because
> > > it
> > > > will help.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers,
> > > >
> > > > Luiz
> > > >
> > > > Luiz A. Rocha, Ph.D.
> > > > Curator and Follett Chair of Ichthyology
> > > > Co-Director, Hope For Reefs Initiative
> > > >
> > > > California Academy of Sciences
> > > >
> > > > p. 415.379.5370
> > > >
> > > > LRocha at calacademy.org
> > > > Academic Website
> > > > <https://www.calacademy.org/staff/ibss/ichthyology/luiz-a-rocha>
> > > >
> > > > 55 Music Concourse Drive
> > > > Golden Gate Park
> > > > San Francisco, CA 94118
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> > >
> > > --
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> > > Author: *Breakpoint: Reckoning with America's Environmental Crises
> > > <
> > >
> >
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