[Coral-List] new book with lots of photos showing what the Caribbean was like

Fri May 5 22:34:00 UTC 2023

I wonder if this "look-back" archive might be an activity of one of the
volunteer or partner-driven monitoring data networks. Three that come to
mind are GCRMN, AGRRA and OBIS.  Perhaps there are others looking for a
core mission like this.  I suspect it would get lost or dropped as a
non-mandated activity in one of the larger government agencies, but for
smaller organizations, I would think it wouldn't be too hard to get grants
or other support for startup.

Steve

On Fri, May 5, 2023 at 5:47 PM Dennis Hubbard via Coral-List <
coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:

> Hi Alina:
>
> I am totally in agreement. I have hundreds (thousands?) of dated photos
> (and vertical video with scale) from St. Croix, Puerto Rico, and  the
> Dominican Republic plus others from many other sites throughout the
> tropics. Many are vertical and could  be subjected to some sort of
> point-counting regimen. I am in the process of handing all my cores and
> logs over to a young reef scientist so their usefulness will live on. I
> wish there was a more systematic way of doing such things. A long time ago,
> the paleo community set up the paleo-botany database (PBDB) for people to
> enter their data. There was an effort to get NSF support but I don't think
> it was successful and had to be run on a more ad hoc basis. It would be a
> real shame to lose these records before folks who could provide useful
> contextual information are gone.
>
> Denny
>
> On Thu, May 4, 2023 at 4:46 PM Alina Szmant via Coral-List <
> coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov> wrote:
>
> > I have a 3 ring binder of slides taken from 1970 on with my Niikonos 2
> > from Puerto Rico, US VI, some from Bahamas and Curacao. I think there
> > should be a repository somewhere for the non-systematic data points. I am
> > sure that I am not the only one who has this.
> >
> > Maybe the ISRS should consider maintaining such a collection of
> historical
> > photographs.
> >
> >
> >
> > Dr. Alina M. Szmant,  CEO
> > CISME Instruments LLC
> >
> >
> >
> > -------- Original message --------
> > From: Douglas Fenner via Coral-List <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
> > Date: 5/4/23 3:05 PM (GMT-05:00)
> > To: coral list <coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov>
> > Subject: [Coral-List] new book with lots of photos showing what the
> > Caribbean was like
> >
> > The Caribbean Coral Reef, a record of an ecosystem under threat
> > by William Sacco
> >
> > Photos of the reefs in Jamaica, Panama, and Curacao in the 1970's.  It is
> > extremely important for us to know what reefs were like before they
> > degraded, so we know what we have lost.  It is way too easy to have
> > "shifting baselines," thinking that the way we first saw reefs is the way
> > they always were.
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.globalcoral.org/caribbean-coral-reefs-natures-nearly-extinct-treasure-at-its-prime/
> >
> >
> >
> https://www.amazon.com/Caribbean-Coral-Reef-Record-Ecosystem/dp/1032414502/ref=sr_1_12
> >
> > Check the reviews by Tom Goreau, Chuck Birkeland, Jim Porter, and Bob
> > Kinzie.
> >
> > Cheers, Doug
> > --
> > Douglas Fenner
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> > NOAA Fisheries Service
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> > Honolulu
> > and:
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> > Pago Pago, American Samoa 96799-6298  USA
> >
> > Degrowth can work - here's how science can help
> > https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-04412-x
> >
> > CoP 27, CoP 17, the party's over https://www.petersalebooks.com/?p=3324
> >
> > Fixing methane leaks is a fast and vast help for climate change, and pays
> > for itself.
> > https://www.yahoo.com/news/why-fixing-methane-leaks-oil-132702814.html
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