[Coral-List] Great Barrier Reef is rapidly losing coral
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Thu Nov 1 10:06:33 EDT 2012
You are spot on, as usual.
* As Thomas Webler emphasized, we shouldn't allow these arguments to go
* Doing so just reinforces those who have been swayed by questionable
* The scientific method encourages criticism until reality speaks for
* Those who have orchestrated the challenge to climate change science
have succeeded in establishing an alternative reality.
* Real science is on the verge of becoming pseudo-science to far too many.
* This effectively creates paralysis in any attempt to move society
forward on the issue.
* I'm now hearing it all the time. The "reasonable" position on climate
change has morphed into "perhaps the changes we are experiencing
are simply the result of the natural cycle".
* In the world outside the scientific community, anthropogenic
causation is being relegated to the extreme.
From: Douglas Fenner
Sent: Nov 1, 2012 3:17 AM
To: August Heim
Cc: Steve Mussman , "coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov"
Subject: Re: [Coral-List] Great Barrier Reef is rapidly losing coral
I wish it were that simple. Fact is, people make these arguments to
sway those who are reading but not writing messages. When someone feels
that another person has sent out a message that will mislead people, they
want to correct it. With climate change you are quite right, no one is
likely to change the opinion of the main people who are arguing these
points. In fact, the main feature of "pseudoscience" is that people will
not abandon their views no matter how many times their views have been shown
by evidence to be wrong. In science, once something has been disproven,
then you have to either change the theory or get a new theory, the old one
is dead. The argument at this point is which side is pseudoscience.
Wikipedia has some interesting pages on pseudoscience for those that are
also their page listing different kinds of pseudoscience
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 5:32 AM, August Heim <august.heim at gmail.com>
Why is this conversation continuing? The first rule of discourse is do you
forsee any conditions with which your mind will change? If not then there
is no point in discussing.
On Oct 31, 2012, at 11:31 AM, Steve Mussman wrote:
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