georg.heiss at reefcheck.de
Wed Jun 27 14:06:31 EDT 2012
Sarah, Robert, Billy,
Well said, Billy!
I definitely concur with your posts about the disposal of any kind of
trash into the sea for fun or/and quick profit, be it golf balls, reef
balls, oil rigs etc.
Dr. Georg Heiss
On 27 June 2012 02:18, Billy Causey <billy.causey at noaa.gov> wrote:
> I am sorry , but I think this entire idea is absurd! This is as bad
> as using reef balls to justify for making up for habitat loss because
> of human destruction. Let's focus on the problem! Us!
> Thank you Sarah for yet again, sticking your neck out! Cheers, Billy
> On Jun 26, 2012, at 12:12 PM, Robert Thigpen
> <para-la-langosta at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> Como estas?
>> I tend to agree with Sarah, especially on the reinforcement of bad behavior
>> point. I would posit that it is never a good idea to teach humans that it is
>> ok to throw stuff into the sea, whether it be a board, plastics, iron
>> filings or fish food in any form. As far as bird poop, have you ever seen
>> what happens to it when it hits the water, it kind of falls apart and
>> disperses quickly, unlike a pseudo golf/fish food ball which I suppose would
>> sink intact and be an unsightly gooey mess on the bottom. Bird poo which I
>> think is a naturally occurring part of the system that I do not think it is
>> usually artificially introduced by people and that perhaps is the bigger
>> point. How can you compare these 2 things?
>> Also, what does fish hooks have to do with this topic? Why bring it up? FYI:
>> I am vehemently against throwing anything into the sea other than
>> retrievable fishing gears, and even some of them I despise.
>> ...and isn't bringing up something that happened in Rio, a lot like bringing
>> up Bill and Monica while discussing drilling for oil in the Artic Wildlife
>> Your using the "drop in the bucket" metaphor brings something else to mind
>> for me, indeed an idea that I do not subscribe to: "The solution to
>> pollution is dilution." Was that your take home message?
>> Perhaps with the distractive rabbit trails you ran down, your irrelevant
>> comparisons and poorly placed metaphors I missed your point, if I did would
>> you please clarify for me. Thanks!
>> Blue skies,
>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Eugene Shinn
>>> Sent: Jun 25, 2012 1:24 PM
>>> To: coral-list at coral.aoml.noaa.gov
>>> Subject: [Coral-List] ECOBIOBALL
>>> Come on Sarah..this is all so silly. Of course run off of fertilizers
>>> used on sea side golf courses is a source of nutrients. Now compare a
>>> one inch diameter sphere of fish food with the poop one seagull drops
>>> on the reef every day! The term "a drop in the bucket" comes to mind.
>>> Be happy the ecobioball does not have a fish hook attached. Has
>>> anyone looked closely at the reports of the recent Sustainability
>>> conference that just ended in Rio? Those greens flown in from around
>>> the world were really living the high life while the champagne
>>> flowed. Talk about hypocrisy! Next it may be baseball. Certainly that
>>> sport "will re-inforce a destructive behavior in people" Come on. Gene
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